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After the Fall - Chapter 25 (notes)

  • Feb. 26th, 2009 at 2:48 PM
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At first, I was going to put this as a long author's note, but decided to post it here instead. This will give insight into some (ONLY some) of the questions about the story. The original fic can be found here.

 

You know, I’m adding this after thinking about the last chapter and comments from people. Do not read this if you don’t want insight into After the Fall, or at least some aspects of it! First, some answers without giving much away to the plot.

First, yes, this was what the reason for the break up all along. Actually, in chapter nine, I believe while Squall and Zell are talking on the boat, he comes out and says it directly. Of course, reading then, you wouldn’t have caught onto it…but I’ve given clues throughout. Don’t ask me where, it’s been forever! Still, Rinoa’s greatest fear, as far as my writings go, is about the world hating her. When Squall felt that way too, even if he really didn’t, it was hard for her to accept. She was young too and rather lost and one of the reasons in this story she moved to Timber. She grew up, basically.

Now to Cid, in the game to me, had a hard time standing up to authority (Norg) sometimes things came out wrong, but he had good intentions, he just may go around them the wrong way. This story, because of the nature, magnifies this aspect. Sometimes things just take him awhile, I’ll leave it at that…for now.

Last, I was specific not to give it any real life names of Squall's situation. Why? Well, terms change a lot, and most of all we are still working in a fictional world. It was based around a story I heard as child, about my grandfather in WWII. He was a pilot, one night after a training run, not even a mission, a member of their squad woke up and forgot where he was, and attacked two of the men in his barracks. There were no weapons or death, and as a general story rather uninteresting, and the man honestly didn’t remember any of it. He blacked it out. He went into a survival mode, although they were not under fire.  Back then it was Shell Shock, but again terms have changed over the last sixty years (Even PTSD fits into the category). After research, Squall had fit so many of the ‘common’ factors; add in that, the mental the confusion of being a knight and feeling weak because of Rinoa at that moment, well, it seemed plausible.  He was twenty one at the time in the story, and somehow everything added up.

FYI, the person in my grandfather’s unit was never removed. Honestly, I never asked why specifically, I doubt the men even reported the incident. Again, different era. However, the man in question I knew well, and called him ‘Uncle’ though no by blood. He was an amazing man, and if I had not known about what happened, I would have never thought it of him. People handle, war, combat, and even ‘training missions’ differently.

Eek, that was long, I just hope that gives you some insight. I’ll of course go into more in the following chapters, now that I said. Hey, it only took me 25 chapters! I guess, after all this time, I just didn’t want to go to write another ‘misunderstanding’ (As in Castles in the Sky) nor did I want to write that one cheated on the other, etc. I think Rinoa once said something about the words hurting her more than anything, because to her, hearing Squall say those words to her was her worst fear was the ultimate betrayal.

…I will go hide under my rock now. Anybody want to join me?

Comments

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(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 01:05 am (UTC)
Reread
That's it! I went back to the conversation between Squall and Zell and 'thwack'. I have committed myself to rereading this so I can catch everything. And honestly I had never thought of how you handled Cid that way, but it makes a load of sense. Oh, and cool story about Obama, hopefully this stimulus will get the US back on it's feet.:-)

DaughterOfSorceress-Lion
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 05:45 am (UTC)
Re: Reread
Hehe, yeah, sometimes the clues are so easy...its difficult. ~_^

Thanks for not hurting me, I was very worried. Hopefully you won't hurt yourself reading it again, actually wanted to try...but I can't read what I write at all. I tend to reword everything, and then make mistakes in the process, so it's continually editing. Maybe, maybe when I am done I’ll go back through. I'm sure there are some continuity mistakes with the four year period I've been writing. Still, if I looked now I would never write new chapters. So want to do that first...then edit the heck out of it.

Again thanks so much. I'm doing the next chapter right now...as I want to get to my favorite part of the story. That's all I'll say. ;)


Edited at 2009-02-27 05:45 am (UTC)
[info]missylm1 wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 02:46 am (UTC)
Ohh Girlfriend
First of all let me say that I am so glad you are back. I have missed you so much and now here you are just in time for us to console eachother over the loss of Marvin. (sniff sniff). Ok and second you know that this is my favorite story right now and I look forward to when you update. Thanks so much for the insight on the last chapter.

Isn't it great to hear all those old stories from our Grandfathers and their trials durning WWII. My grandfather used to load up your grandfathers bombs on his planes....well maybe not his planes but someones...then he got transfered and went into France. My hubbies grandfathers stories and even more intense. Thank God we have that great heritage to look back on... and learn from.

Give me a shout. missylm@ptd.net
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 05:54 am (UTC)
Re: Ohh Girlfriend
Hey, I will try to get on MSN on Saturday night if you are not busy; if not will try Sunday. I just updated messenger the other day. I'll be very depressed Saturday, as my birthday is Sunday and I hate birthdays. I'm the opposite of the Selphie I write. ~_^ I honestly remember being ten and upset, as I would, 'never be in single digits again.' Yeah, I was a strange child.

Oh, also the Best story of my grandfather ever told me: they were in Pensacola, and were on a routine training mission over the Atlantic. The squad was following the lead plane, but knew they had to turn around or would run out of fuel. They tried to radio but couldn't reach him. Eventually the squad turned and went back...the head plane was already there. Whatever they were following was not him, however every one of their instruments said it was... it’s just one of those weird stories. As yes, it would have the Bermuda Triangle in the 1940s. Yes, it was probably a magnetic/technical glitch. Still, each pilot swore they were following the light of the head plane...

Yes, I told it out load. My mother would be so embarrassed by that getting out. Plus you know, that story would not make good fanfiction, unless of course, Selphie was following PuPu in the Ragnarok…still not the same drama and angst. You know me, I love drama and angst.
[info]missylm1 wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 06:08 am (UTC)
Re: Ohh Girlfriend
OMG that is so weird. I just watched a special on the History Channel the other month about that!!!!! That is the strangest thing ever and now to hear that your grandfather was there too is just amazing.

The one that sticks out in my mind was when my grandfather went into a town in France right after they chased the Nazi's out the Mayor of the Town was hanging from a noose in the town square and his body was still warm. He was murdered just before they came in to liberate them.

And yes I think a lot of these stories would make good fanfiction additions.

I have been in a rut here of late. I should be on Saturday. I am off work right now getting IV Steriods into my arm. Oh Yippy Skippy. Oh remind me to send you the video of my girls at Bippity Bobbity Boutique in Disney.
[info]noacat wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 04:54 am (UTC)
AUHMAHZZZZZZZZZZZING CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPTER.

I actually went back and reread the whole story because I was so surprised by the revelation. It's nice, because you can see the hints but it's never explicit. Very nice bit of foreshadowing... or past... shadowing... Anyway, nice work, madam.
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Feb. 27th, 2009 05:40 am (UTC)
Weird isn't it? How things make sense all of sudden. I seriously, seriously thought I would take a lot of slack for this. I didn't even read the reviews earlier, I had my soon look at the page to see if people were screaming. Then when he said nothing was that bad, thought I'd chance it.

I did research, but wanted to keep it somewhat fantasy. However I will say that I'm shocked and horrified you read the whole thing again! I'm sure I made mistakes, as this is like four years old, plot wise I mean. Hopefully it had some continuity. Wow, maybe you can figure the actual mystery out…those clues where in there too. *is evil*
[info]rosa_heartlily wrote:
Feb. 28th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
That makes a lot of sense - particularly thinking of Squall going through PTSD. None of us know how we would handle a particular situation until we're faced with it.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the story works out.
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 07:00 am (UTC)
Thank you as always.

Hope the family is doing well. I'm so glad spring is almost here. ;)
[info]cerulean88 wrote:
Mar. 5th, 2009 06:58 am (UTC)
(totally skipped the above so that she won't get spoiled)

am here to wish you a belated happy birthday Kris! ♥ =)
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
Thank you so much...

...And it's totally fine you skipped the long ranty message. I would have too if I could have. ~_^
[info]optical_goddess wrote:
Mar. 5th, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
Wow, I don't have the time to check my email every day, but now there's another update for ATF?? Yes! Ok, reread my reply to the last chapter and Fanfiction.net erases extra letters. Like I had written Oooohhhh... okkkkkkk.... 'cuz I was in shock and awestruck at the revelation of SQuall. However reading back the reply all it says is, "oh. ok." and that sounds so bad like I wasn't impressed, and I totally was!

So I printed out the next chapter to hopefully read at work. Tonight is our anniversary, and my husband is actually thinking about going to the Safehouse on Sunday after we go to the museum! :)

Glad to see you are still getting to the internet!

[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
Woo hoo, internet rules! I will be so lost again without it.

Oh don't worry, I forget about fanfiction cutting things off all the time. I especially forget when doing the review replies; I've had it jumble up letters and words and pretty much make me look more incoherent than normal. Well, suppose that wouldn't be too hard to do. ~_^

Oh, happy belated anniversary. I hope you did get to go to Safehouse, and I totally hope you didn't give him the right password. I want to be evil to my family, darn it.

Hopefully see you soon, we must plan something. I really want to do the museum thing, but sure you wouldn't want to go again. Well find something, maybe the Zoo...and bring Squall and Rinoa. Sorry so late in replying, but honestly, thank you so much!
[info]optical_goddess wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 03:47 pm (UTC)
We did get to the museum, but not the Safehouse 'cuz the weather was getting bad. And yes, he DOES know the password. He wouldn't go without it.
[info]yuphemiya wrote:
Mar. 6th, 2009 11:06 am (UTC)
I think that you are a very good writer! I really like your stories. I was very happy when you updated. Wish you all the best and looking forward to next chapters!!!
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 06:54 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for the comment and the compliments. It means so much. Hopefully I will keep the updating going, and hopefully get to talk to you again in the future!

(Anonymous) wrote:
Mar. 6th, 2009 04:40 pm (UTC)
:)
Hey !

I just read the last chapter of AFT and I'm as usual amazed at how you plan everything so much in advance.

I perfectly remember the conversation between Zell and Squall, and how the radio was not at fault. To me it's one of the highlight of the story, I have to admit I like the friendship between those two better than the relations between the girls ( which is why I was slightly disappointed to see no mention of Squall and Zell in the last two chapters, snif !)

Oh, thanks for sharing your thoughts, I always love to watch the "behind the scene" and "director commentary" on DVD ^^

ChrisVIII
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Mar. 12th, 2009 07:07 am (UTC)
Re: :)
Hey Chris, always love to see you stop by my crazy journal of doom.

And yeah, I do try to plan everything. I know in SIB we had an outline before. I would just be afraid if I didn't plan it out I'd forget, or just start adding extra plot things that randomly came to mind, and it would get out of hand. It’s me, remember? ;)

Heck, that is what Dancing/Endless Waltz is for, because I can pretty much do a bunch of stories there! I still follow a basic outline, but I can come up with different arcs if I want.

As for After the Fall, Squall and Zell will be back in the next chapters. PROMISE. I honestly thought about putting in them in the last ones, but I wanted to focus on Rinoa’s talking part and keep with that emotion. Plus, I was afraid that I could only say 'they are stuck in a van and want to beat each other up with paperclips' so many ways! Hopefully, soon, they will get out of the van... I think both will be happy for the break, at least, until I toss them back in there.

I am teh EVIL.
[info]tsukushi_chan wrote:
Jul. 8th, 2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
Hi! I was reading Dancing in Time at fanfiction.net and found your lj link from your profile. Just wanted to say I really like that story and the way it was written. Hope to see the new chapter of Endless Waltz soon! I've just started reading After The Fall, and can't wait to see how the story will unfold. Good luck on the other chapters and stories ^_^
[info]ashes_and_wings wrote:
Aug. 23rd, 2009 11:41 pm (UTC)
I am so sorry about the delay in replying. A lot of things happened. I won't go into it here; it's listed in the beginning of today’s chapter of After the Fall if you see it. ;)

I was actually kinda stuck at on Endless Waltz to a degree. Hopefully, I'm getting beyond that now. I have how everything happens in the story. It's just sometimes getting from 'point A' to 'point B' that can be confusing.

Thanks again! I promise to try to work on it!

Kris
[info]tsukushi_chan wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2009 02:33 am (UTC)
Hey, don't worry about it. Hope things get better for you. Alot has been happening around lately too. I've just lost my job, but it was a good thing I found another pretty quickly.

I've the same problem too, getting from point A to pint B in a story, despite having the whole plot already planned out. Not to mention it's an original work as well. It really can be confusing, and I really hate having writer's block.

anyway, good luck, take your time! will be checking out the new chapter ;)
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